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Cholocheater agreed to a public formal debate on Vatican 2 contradicting on church and state doctrines vs prior papal teachings, and has predictably backed out. / Trent Horn and I are debating this in December / I talk about collier and horowitz and david’s memoirs

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  1. Jay Dyer

    Discusses a debate about Vatican II and church-state doctrines.

    “Cholocheater agreed to a public formal debate on Vatican 2 contradicting on church and state doctrines vs prior papal teachings, and has predictably backed out.”

  2. Jay Dyer

    References engagement in a community discussion.

    “I talk about collier and horowitz and david’s memoirs”

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  • Jay Dyer notes that he is debating Trent Horn in December.

  • Jay Dyer mentions a formal debate on Vatican II and church-state doctrines, and notes that someone has backed out of this debate.