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How the Papacy Departed from ORTHODOXY!

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In his analysis, Jay Dyer critiques the historical evolution of the papacy from an Orthodox viewpoint, asserting that it represents an early form of Protestantism due to its separation from the early Church's collegial structure. He argues that, particularly following the fall of Rome, the papacy consolidated ecclesiastical and secular authority, leading to a significant shift towards unilateral church power, especially evident during the Gregorian Reform. Dyer examines the actions of popes, such as Leo IX, which resulted in conflicts with Eastern Canon Law and introduced doctrines like papal infallibility, ultimately contributing to tensions that fueled the Protestant Reformation. He emphasizes the papacy's entanglement with geopolitical interests and critiques its deviation from Orthodox teachings over time, indicating that while he does not support Reformation doctrines, the concerns raised by the Reformers hold substantial merit.

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    • Jay Dyer: The church in Rome abandoned the collegiate structure present in the early Church.“the church abandoned in Rome, abandoned the earlier synodal collegial structure”
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    • Jay Dyer: The papacy undercuts previous structures by adopting civil roles for clergy against earlier Christian teachings.“it is forbidden for clerics to also have a role in the civil state”
    • Jay Dyer: Leo IX attempted to reform the Church but transformed its authority significantly.“leo journeyed to the central and south of Italy, but also to France and Germany”
    via Pope Leo IX
    • Jay Dyer: Papal activism began to confuse the roles of Church and state.“the role of a Christian king or emperor. It's now the role of the head of the church”
    • Jay Dyer: John XXII rejected the notion of papal infallibility to assert his authority.“John XXII actually condemned papal infallibility as a novelty”
    • Jay Dyer: Pope Martin's writing indicates that no one is superior to an ecumenical council, challenging the authority of the papacy.“Pope Martin wrote intercunctas which said that no one is superior to an ecumenical council”

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  • Jay argues that the papacy represents a departure from Orthodox synodal structure and embodies an original form of Protestantism due to its geopolitical aspirations.

  • Jay argues that Leo IX wanted to reform the Church but represented a significant shift in Papal authority, emphasizing a new relationship with the state.

  • Jay critiques Dictatus Pape as a significant doctrinal shift in the Papacy that aimed against the Eastern Church.

  • Jay Dyer highlights the role of the Council of Constance in determining which pope would be legitimate.

  • Jay Dyer discusses the Fourth Lateran Council's stance on heretics and contrasts it with Vatican II's embrace of religious liberty.

  • Jay references Gavin Ortlund's view regarding the papacy's self-perception and its historical changes in authority.

  • Jay Dyer discusses the Great Schism of the West as involving multiple claimants to the Sea of Rome and the significant role of an ecumenical council in resolving this issue after the papacy's entanglement in geopolitical power.

  • Jay discusses the role of Pope John XXII in the history of papal authority and his rejection of infallibility.

  • Jay traces the origins and controversies of the doctrine of papal infallibility, arguing that it was a later development not present in the first millennium.

  • Jay Dyer refers to Pope Martin in the context of his writing, Intercunctas, which states that no one is superior to an ecumenical council.

  • Jay Dyer argues that the critiques of the Reformers regarding the corruption of the Church's doctrine are valid, even if he doesn't agree with their doctrines.

  • Jay Dyer critiques the Vatican II's position on religious liberty, contrasting it with past church doctrines that condemned it.