Rome, SSPX, Godlogic Problems & RELIGIOUS CHAOS!

He reflects on his transition from Novus Ordo to SSPX.

“I was in the SSPX as a Latin Mass attendee for almost a decade”

He critiques the reforms of Vatican II and their theological implications.

“the more that I read the Vatican II theology, the more of a problem this became for me”

He discusses Lefebvre's initial acceptance but later dissent from Vatican II.

“Lefebvre was not actually opposed to, in fact, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre signed on to the documents of Vatican II”

He relates the SSPX's excommunication to canonical law and the actions of Lefebvre.

“what actually got them excommunicated in 1988 was latte sententiae”

He delineates the historical context of the SSPX's position regarding Jansenism.

“many French Catholics were Jansenists”

Many European countries had a pre-papal orthodoxy.

“they had a period before papism where they were orthodox.”

There are problematic theological ideas within SSPX.

“there are still radical sort of Augustinian Jansenist ideas.”

Michael Voris had a fallout with SSPX.

“there ended up being some huge fallout with Michael Voris and people from the SSPX.”

Voris's organization Church Militant encountered scandals leading to its collapse.

“the Church Militant collapsed, which was Michael Voris' thing.”

Jay experienced issues with Father Gregory Post and was asked to leave the SSPX.

“Father Gregory Post threatened if I ever set foot on an SSPX chapel grounds again, he would have me arrested.”

There was a historic connection between SSPX and various corporate influences.

“some of the chief members of the SSPX... were like these high-level CEO corporate figures.”

The canonization of John Paul II was a point of major theological dispute.

“I was right. They did absolutely canonize John Paul II.”

Dyer reflects on his experience with traditional Catholicism and critiques Vatican II.

“I've been questioning America and Americanism and classical liberalism since 2002, three, four.”

Dyer argues that the SSPX cannot selectively accept magisterial teachings.

“are they able to justify this halfway house position?”

Dyer asserts that all Catholics are bound to follow the teachings of Vatican II.

“every action the Vatican takes reaffirms the arguments that I'm saying.”

Dyer argues that the teachings in Denzinger confirm the obligation of all Catholics.

“it is false to think that you're only bound by the ex-cathedra or infallible teachings.”

One is not only bound to ex-cathedra statements but also to disciplinary judgments of the Roman see.

“One cannot withhold assent and obedience to the judgments and decrees of the apostolic see.”

The SSPX position equates to a modernist error condemned by Church doctrine.

“That very position is a modernist position condemned right here.”

Catholics must adhere to both ex-cathedra and ordinary universal teachings.

“By the way, if you're stupid and you don't have reading comprehension.”

Vatican II's teachings must be adhered to as they are normative for the Church.

“even if we granted that Vatican II wasn't dogmatic and infallible, it's normative, ordinary teaching for the entire church.”

Critique of Catholic attitudes towards Vatican II

“That is not the Catholic attitude. That's not Catholic moral theology.”

Vatican II's teachings are binding and irreversible

“we can affirm with certainty and with magisterial authority that Vatican II's mass, Vatican II's liturgy is irreversible.”

Critique of the SSPX's understanding of magisterial authority

“It condemns the SSPX position.”

Clarifying that Canon Law supports the authority of Vatican II

“Canon 752 says that when the papacy or the bishops are teaching on faith and morals... if they're teaching on faith and morals, it's normative.”

Critique of the need for dogmatic declarations

“the arguments that the modernists are using is the same line of argumentation of the trads.”

The SSPX lacks jurisdiction due to not being in communion with the Roman Sea.

“Thus, the SSPX does not have jurisdiction, which is ludicrous.”

The contradictions in Roman Catholic teachings on jurisdiction create confusion about sacramental validity.

“It doesn't make any sense to say, well, I have the sacrament and the grace, but not jurisdiction.”

Roman Catholics often reject their bishops due to liberal teachings, which undermines the magisterium's authority.

“...if you actually believe the basics and you're not a butt buddy, you're already out of accord with your bishops.”

Rejecting papal authority leads to Protestantism.

“If you don't, you're in the same position as us.”

The evolution in papal authority began with the Gregorian reforms, leading to contradictions in Church structure.

“That's why there's so much just absolute nonsense in the Roman Catholic world.”

The modern papacy acts as a political tool.

“the papacy today essentially a political geopolitical tool of Western oligarchical power.”

Vatican II must be accepted by all Catholics, including traditionalists.

“Of course you are.”

Denzinger 1830 establishes the authority of the Roman pontiff.

“he is the supreme judge in all cases pertaining to ecclesiastical examination.”

The SSPX's rejection of Vatican II highlights their misunderstanding.

“the very actions excommunicating the SSPX proves I was right all along.”

He critiques God Logic's approach to church and apologetics.

“I don't hate God logic.”

His opposition to God Logic is based on genuine concern over misleading practices.

“we need to talk about God logic because...”

He calls out the need for doctrinal truth over market appeal.

“you got to have a church.”

He references problematic ministry associations by God Logic.

“do you guys remember...”

He suggests God Logic promotes a grifting mentality based on familial connections in ministry.

“God logic comes from a family of grifters dude.”

Critique of modern deliverance ministries as inauthentic

“deliverance ministry is off the hook man that's just crazy”

Avery Austin's church is promoted for profit

“here is avery promoting his dad's church”

Tyler Perry's influence in church contexts leads to exploitation

“the reason that tyler perry was successful...was precisely because his whole routine...was just performing in black churches”

There is no such thing as a churchless apologist.

“there's no such thing in the history of the church... of a churchless apologist”

Grifting occurs when one prioritizes personal gain over genuine practices.

“grifting is when you're a con man”

The practices of SSPX are considered Protestant-like due to lack of papal approval.

“they're actually just protestants”

The Vatican is apostate.

“the vatican is apostate”

A belief in Jesus should be tied to a commitment to a church and its leaders.

“the bible many times over says submit to the elders submit to the bishops”

The SSPX is in a similar situation to their excommunication in 1988.

“this is not really any different than ... the same thing happened in 1988”

Vatican I establishes that clergy and faithful must submit to Rome.

“vatican one says... clergy and faithful are bound to submit to rome”

Most staunch SSPX supporters may shift to liberal Catholic churches.

“most of the sspx staunch people are just going to go to some liberal catholic church”

There will be a split among SSPX members between those wanting to return to Rome and those who wish to maintain schismatic positions.

“some of them wanting to go back to rome... some of them wanting to be like state of a contest”

Speeches at America’s Center indicate a movement towards a global religion.

“watch the speeches about america's center 50th anniversary”