John Kiriakou: THEY Really Did THIS.... Jay Dyer Show
In the latest episode of the Jay Dyer Show, host Jay Dyer interviews former CIA officer and whistleblower John Kiriakou, who shares his insights on the intertwined nature of espionage, intelligence agencies, and organized crime. Kiriakou discusses controversial CIA operations, such as MKUltra, and reflects on the historical development of U.S. intelligence, particularly its connections with British agencies and the complexities surrounding state-sponsored terrorism. He recounts his experiences and personal anecdotes from his time in the CIA, touching on the ethical dilemmas of torture and covert operations, while also exploring the influence of cultural propaganda during the Cold War. The conversation delves into geopolitical issues and the ongoing impact of past U.S. actions on current global dynamics, including the implications stemming from relationships with countries like Saudi Arabia and the dynamics surrounding various terrorist groups.
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- John Kiriakou: Jay mentions historical ties between organized crime and American intelligence agencies.“there are lots of examples where they worked very closely with organized crime.”
- John Kiriakou: Many terror events may serve the interests of state entities.“there was a benefit for the United States to kill two million Muslims over the next 20 years.”
- Jay Dyer: Espionage involves illegal activities disguised as legal under certain circumstances.“How do you balance, as you're, say, being trained and going into this world...”
- Jay Dyer: Dyer is curious about the influence of the Vatican and the CIA during the Cold War, particularly regarding John Paul II.“there were significant advancements that Israel was able to achieve through John Paul II.”
- Jay Dyer: Discussion on shows portraying the CIA and personal insights from Kiriakou“this is from Penny for $20. Is house of cards worth watching...”
- Jay Dyer: He knows the critique by Butler but lacks full knowledge of the specific plot.“I don't know a lot about that. I mean, I'm familiar with the overall Smedley Butler critique”
Subjects
25Jay Dyer discusses MKUltra as a controversial CIA program that involved unethical experimentation, questioning the justification behind such actions during the Cold War.
Jay Dyer considers John Kiriakou a hero for exposing the CIA's torture program and values his stance on the necessity of law and ethical conduct in intelligence operations.
Jay Dyer expresses skepticism about the existence of aliens but connects the discussion of UFOs to deep state practices reminiscent of MKUltra.
Jay presents a critical view of the CIA's creation and its relationship with intelligence operations, particularly with British influences.
Jay discusses the significance of 'Dr. Zhivago' as a tool of CIA propaganda during the Cold War, highlighting how it was smuggled into the Soviet Union to influence Soviet citizens.
Jay Dyer relates the recognition of Israel by the Vatican to John Paul II's papacy and discusses its political implications.
Jay presents John Kiriakou's account of 17 November as a radical leftist organization that was financed through bank and post office robberies.
Jay remarks on the implications of Al Qaeda's formation and its connections to larger geopolitical strategies and events, particularly 9/11.
Jay Dyer views Angela Merkel as a disappointing leader contributing to the destruction of her country.
Jay brings up the role of the Antiochian Church during John's experiences in the Middle East.
Jay mentions the Arab-Israeli peace process being sponsored during John's time in the Middle East.
Jay refers to Bilderberg as part of the deep state structure that influences global policies regarding arms sales.